Comments for Love,Forgiveness & Wisdom's Blog http://lfwclp.wordpress.com Just another WordPress.com weblog Wed, 24 Jun 2009 11:11:07 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 Comment on Atonement – The Essay by Marina Pietri http://lfwclp.wordpress.com/2009/02/27/atonement-the-essay/#comment-18 Marina Pietri Wed, 24 Jun 2009 11:11:07 +0000 http://lfwclp.wordpress.com/?p=401#comment-18 Nancy Forgiveness is something that we all struggle with. when we don't let go of bitterness, feelings of revenge, depair, and anger it eats us up inside. Nancy open your heart ask God for help let go of the pass and focus on healing. if you have any wounds that need to be healed, friendships that need to be rekindled, three words that need to be said (I love you, I am sorry or I forgive you) Say it. Basically, in order to live life to the fullest and recieve our blessings we need to let go of the anger, hate, past hurts, forgive, accept, make peace within our hearts, and with GOD because tomorrow is not promised. Nancy Forgiveness is something that we all struggle with. when we don’t let go of bitterness, feelings of revenge, depair, and anger it eats us up inside. Nancy open your heart ask God for help let go of the pass and focus on healing. if you have any wounds that need to be healed, friendships that need to be rekindled, three words that need to be said (I love you, I am sorry or I forgive you) Say it. Basically, in order to live life to the fullest and recieve our blessings we need to let go of the anger, hate, past hurts, forgive, accept, make peace within our hearts, and with GOD because tomorrow is not promised.

]]> Comment on Atonement – The Essay by Jane Jessell http://lfwclp.wordpress.com/2009/02/27/atonement-the-essay/#comment-17 Jane Jessell Sun, 08 Mar 2009 17:10:47 +0000 http://lfwclp.wordpress.com/?p=401#comment-17 Nancy -- Thank you for the kind words. Forgiveness? It's a concept that we humans struggle with almost every day, isn't it? It is a gift we give ourselves. When we offer forgiveness, it helps us -- we can let go of bitterness, feelings of revenge, depair, and anger. The deed itself does not go away, but our response to it can be ameliorated. We can forgive a thief, for example, but he/she must still go to jail. Are some things truly unforgiveable? That's a good question, isn't it? What do you think? Jane Nancy — Thank you for the kind words. Forgiveness? It’s a concept that we humans struggle with almost every day, isn’t it? It is a gift we give ourselves. When we offer forgiveness, it helps us — we can let go of bitterness, feelings of revenge, depair, and anger. The deed itself does not go away, but our response to it can be ameliorated. We can forgive a thief, for example, but he/she must still go to jail. Are some things truly unforgiveable? That’s a good question, isn’t it? What do you think?

Jane

]]> Comment on Atonement – The Essay by Nancy Wallach http://lfwclp.wordpress.com/2009/02/27/atonement-the-essay/#comment-16 Nancy Wallach Sat, 07 Mar 2009 21:45:21 +0000 http://lfwclp.wordpress.com/?p=401#comment-16 Thanks so much, Heather and Jane. It was a wonderfully interesting and thought-provoking series. The vividness provided by the Farsi reading and student actors added tremendously. The selection of books was varied and exposed us to some excellent writing. I could never have anticipated the range of widely differing opinions expressed in the discussions. However, after reading and enjoying the books and the discussions, I admit to not having gained much understanding of the concept of forgiveness, which I had never thought about before. It still just doesn't seem like a good idea to me. Some human actions have lasting detrimental consequences that affect the lives of others. Why absolve the actors of responsibility? It just seems that forgiveness is a lowering of standards and an acceptance of the unacceptable in human behavior. Thanks so much, Heather and Jane. It was a wonderfully interesting and thought-provoking series. The vividness provided by the Farsi reading and student actors added tremendously.

The selection of books was varied and exposed us to some excellent writing. I could never have anticipated the range of widely differing opinions expressed in the discussions.

However, after reading and enjoying the books and the discussions, I admit to not having gained much understanding of the concept of forgiveness, which I had never thought about before. It still just doesn’t seem like a good idea to me. Some human actions have lasting detrimental consequences that affect the lives of others. Why absolve the actors of responsibility?

It just seems that forgiveness is a lowering of standards and an acceptance of the unacceptable in human behavior.

]]> Comment on Atonement – The Essay by Jane Jessell http://lfwclp.wordpress.com/2009/02/27/atonement-the-essay/#comment-15 Jane Jessell Wed, 04 Mar 2009 01:12:07 +0000 http://lfwclp.wordpress.com/?p=401#comment-15 Christine -- Try THE NEW YORKER instead of THE NEW YORK TIMES. I'll bring a few copies with me to class, too. The book and the movie are certainly not the same, are they? It'll be interesting to hear more comments on Thursday. Jane Christine — Try THE NEW YORKER instead of THE NEW YORK TIMES. I’ll bring a few copies with me to class, too.

The book and the movie are certainly not the same, are they? It’ll be interesting to hear more comments on Thursday.

Jane

]]> Comment on Some Final Thoughts on Rumi by christine aikens wolfe http://lfwclp.wordpress.com/2009/02/26/some-final-thoughts-on-rumi/#comment-14 christine aikens wolfe Tue, 03 Mar 2009 22:13:07 +0000 http://lfwclp.wordpress.com/?p=404#comment-14 Jane, I actually found the Expanded Academic ASAP, but could not get it to link up to any feb23,2009 New York Times article called, "the Background Hum: Ian McEwan's art of unease." Any brilliant hints? I saw the movie, which put a few more nails in the coffin of my arguments, though I did not pursue any of the articles to see if they agreed with me. McEwan can really create suspense, but the "Briony wrote this novel" is full of holes. I think that he is showing us (a la Henfy James, but not as well done) that there are several interps for readers: McEwan did not want a happy (ish) ending and that review from an editor is HIS.... Briony already lived the story where it came out okay, but HE can't accept it... or, as the movie shows, the lovers died. But then, illogically, WHY do Jackson & Pierot not speak to Lady Lola, and why is Briony friendly with Leon over the years if she never confessed.... or, perhaps the lovers died, but Briony still confessed to her parents (before Mummy's death) and thus made friends with Leon again (not to mention P & J) but obviously, she can't publish until Lola dies. The movie SKIPPED that dilemma entirely. Christine Jane,
I actually found the Expanded Academic ASAP, but could not get it to link up to any feb23,2009 New York Times article called, “the Background Hum: Ian McEwan’s art of unease.” Any brilliant hints?

I saw the movie, which put a few more nails in the coffin of my arguments, though I did not pursue any of the articles to see if they agreed with me. McEwan can really create suspense, but the “Briony wrote this novel” is full of holes. I think that he is showing us (a la Henfy James, but not as well done) that there are several interps for readers:
McEwan did not want a happy (ish) ending and that review from an editor is HIS…. Briony already lived the story where it came out okay, but HE can’t accept it…

or, as the movie shows, the lovers died. But then, illogically, WHY do Jackson & Pierot not speak to Lady Lola, and why is Briony friendly with Leon over the years if she never confessed….

or, perhaps the lovers died, but Briony still confessed to her parents (before Mummy’s death) and thus made friends with Leon again (not to mention P & J)

but obviously, she can’t publish until Lola dies. The movie SKIPPED that dilemma entirely.
Christine

]]> Comment on Atonement – The Essay by Jane http://lfwclp.wordpress.com/2009/02/27/atonement-the-essay/#comment-13 Jane Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:23:04 +0000 http://lfwclp.wordpress.com/?p=401#comment-13 Christine -- Thanks for your input -- I'm so glad to hear your opinions about the structure of our class. I do hope you'll be able to come to Thursday's class and share more of what you're thinking. We certainly missed you during our discussion of Rumi! -- Jane Christine — Thanks for your input — I’m so glad to hear your opinions about the structure of our class. I do hope you’ll be able to come to Thursday’s class and share more of what you’re thinking. We certainly missed you during our discussion of Rumi! — Jane

]]> Comment on Atonement – The Essay by christine aikens wolfe http://lfwclp.wordpress.com/2009/02/27/atonement-the-essay/#comment-12 christine aikens wolfe Sat, 28 Feb 2009 03:27:16 +0000 http://lfwclp.wordpress.com/?p=401#comment-12 Oops, I meant with a few brave exceptions... Sorry about that. Christine Oops, I meant with a few brave exceptions… Sorry about that. Christine

]]> Comment on Atonement – The Essay by christine aikens wolfe http://lfwclp.wordpress.com/2009/02/27/atonement-the-essay/#comment-11 christine aikens wolfe Sat, 28 Feb 2009 03:24:57 +0000 http://lfwclp.wordpress.com/?p=401#comment-11 Hello, all! Well, I just plain do not believe Betty Sue Flowers interpretation of the sentence where Briony sees the other self walking back without confronting Cee. I think, at the end, the reason that Cee & Robbie are not there is that they are dead... Older that she is... As many times as MdEwan gives us hints about what is about to happen, forshadowing and so forth, would he be so slippery as to show us a spineless narrator who DID go to witness the wedding and who then reneged on facing her sister? I just did not get that impression at all. One other thing that I don't "get" about this series is our responder-time. Though I have enjoyed the books and Heather's lectures no end; I feel that our discussions were STRICKLY related to responses to the books with no exception. If McEwan could give away books to women in a park, I assume it was because they read and felt something about the characters in the book, and probably shared that with a diary or a friend. The themes of love, forgiveness and wisdom surely touch our everyday lives; should we not share (at least in pairs with the reader beside us) some personal reponses to those themes? Puzzled In Pittsburgh Hello, all!
Well, I just plain do not believe Betty Sue Flowers interpretation of the sentence where Briony sees the other self walking back without confronting Cee. I think, at the end, the reason that Cee & Robbie are not there is that they are dead… Older that she is… As many times as MdEwan gives us hints about what is about to happen, forshadowing and so forth, would he be so slippery as to show us a spineless narrator who DID go to witness the wedding and who then reneged on facing her sister?

I just did not get that impression at all.

One other thing that I don’t “get” about this series is our responder-time. Though I have enjoyed the books and Heather’s lectures no end; I feel that our discussions were STRICKLY related to responses to the books with no exception. If McEwan could give away books to women in a park, I assume it was because they read and felt something about the characters in the book, and probably shared that with a diary or a friend. The themes of love, forgiveness and wisdom surely touch our everyday lives; should we not share (at least in pairs with the reader beside us) some personal reponses to those themes?
Puzzled In Pittsburgh

]]> Comment on Jane Austen: A Tale of Two Sisters by christine aikens wolfe http://lfwclp.wordpress.com/2009/01/13/jane-austen-a-tale-of-two-sisters/#comment-10 christine aikens wolfe Fri, 20 Feb 2009 21:38:09 +0000 http://lfwclp.wordpress.com/?p=5#comment-10 I was so sorry to miss Rumi! My apologies to Jane and Heather! I asked one friend to take some mental notes for me; I will be sure to be at the Atonement session. I am soo enjoying both the discussions and the commentary here! Christine (of 6 Feet Under fame and the Skakespeare jacket, etc) I was so sorry to miss Rumi! My apologies to Jane and Heather! I asked one friend to take some mental notes for me; I will be sure to be at the Atonement session. I am soo enjoying both the discussions and the commentary here!
Christine (of 6 Feet Under fame and the Skakespeare jacket, etc)

]]> Comment on The Winter’s Tale – Essay by helena frey http://lfwclp.wordpress.com/2009/01/30/the-winters-tale-essay/#comment-9 helena frey Thu, 05 Feb 2009 22:20:41 +0000 http://lfwclp.wordpress.com/?p=285#comment-9 I have an extremely difficult time taking "The Winter's Tale" seriously. On the other hand, I pleased to have Shakespeare in my life. The way he floods the world with words has always satsified my need for a poetic approach to dialogue. So, although "The Winter's Tale" does not come across as a play that should be taken seriously, I can't but help take Shakespeare himself seriously. And so I thank you for reading this and bringing me into the 21st! I have an extremely difficult time taking “The Winter’s Tale”
seriously. On the other hand, I pleased to have Shakespeare in my life. The way he floods the world with words has always satsified my need for a poetic approach to dialogue. So, although “The Winter’s Tale” does not come across as a play that should be taken seriously, I
can’t but help take Shakespeare himself seriously.

And so I thank you for reading this and bringing me into the 21st!

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